LPD Semi-Finals: Clintwood vs JJ Kelly

**R0cketer** · February 16th, 2007, 04:22 PM

Mmmm dont think I questioned their schedule, I said went by what was listed on their website. The schedule listed is not that much more. I agree that playing better competition is good, but tournaments, you normally lock in for several years, what is a 'good tournament' this year might be a bad tournament next year, depending on what other schools do. I don't think that there was a huge disparity in the schedules. I don't think anybody 'touted' anybodys opponents.

**Unchained** · February 16th, 2007, 04:35 PM

"Now is Kelly's that much better?"
If that isn't questioning, then I don't know what is. As for the good tourney/bad tourney different years, that doesn't wash in the Tipoff Classic. Can you remember how long it has been since VHS wasn't solid? Throw in JJK and GC, and you are assured of at LEAST 3 real-deal state powers. Most tourneys can't boast that, and that's not even mentioning the other teams who show. That tourney just doesn't invite anybody amigo.

**R0cketer** · February 16th, 2007, 04:46 PM

Ok now that we're enjoying picking out things said, go read the part about 'ACCORDING TO THEIR SCHEDULE POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE'. I don't have the Kelly schedule committed to memory so I can only go by whats listed and if their own website doesn't have it listed, then what? If they played greater teams, then thats fine and probably right, it did help them.

**Unchained** · February 16th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Not picking out things at all. You questioned their schedule based on nothing but a listing from their website without stopping and doing a little research on those particular teams. I don't have the Clintwood schedule committed to memory either, but I do know that playing folks like Ervinton hurts you in the long run.

**R0cketer** · February 16th, 2007, 04:59 PM

Uhhh I listed the teams on their website. Clintwood had Lee scheduled, so thats a wash.

So its comparing Rye Cove and Shelby Valley to Council, East Ridge, Ervinton and Twin Valley I think it was. Sorry, I dont see that being such a huge disparity. One game against better competition is probably not going to suddenly morph a team.

I have no idea if Ervintons girls team is worth a hoot or not. It was a tournament, they aren't a regularly scheduled game. Maybe they would have Haysi in the tournament, who normally is a good team. You dont get to pick your opponents in a tournament.

**R0cketer** · February 16th, 2007, 05:08 PM

And for the record, I didn't expect Clintwood to get that far. They had some good players this year, but I think they end up developing (or relying on) one player each year to carry them, sometimes at the expense of developing another threat or two. It seems like we have, an a normal year, one of the top scorers and then a huge dip to number two on the team. The one dominant player works great against most teams, but when you're playing other good teams with good coaching, they force other players to step up to beat them, and since they aren't used to doing that, it mostly catches up with them.

**asdf1234** · February 17th, 2007, 01:05 PM

I disagree. Clintwood had 3 players who could have potentially dominated the district this year. They were doing that at the first of the year. They were getting the ball to who it needed to go to and were winning. However, in the second half of the season, the ball was not getting to where it needed to be. The one player was still scoring for the most part, but the other two were not stepping up. I agree that you cannot win with one player, but I don't agree that Clintwood didn't have those other two or three dynamic players. They simply didn't step up the second half of the season and the rest of the team didn't get the ball where it needed to be.